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the Betty and Barney Hill UFO Abduction

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story from its primary sources by

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Charles Lear the story of the September

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1961 case involving the possible

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Abduction of Betty and Barney Hill by

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UFO occupants has been related and

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examined in numerous Publications and

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formats it's an intriguing case and was

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the first of the late 20th century UFO

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Abduction reports to receive serious

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consideration and publication by

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investigators this makes it a case

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worthy of attention because the story

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told by the hills couldn't have been

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influenced by previous abduction

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narratives the main source for the

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abduction story that is focused on by

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most researchers such as John Fuller who

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wrote the 1966 book about the case

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titled the interrupted journey is the

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tapes from the hypnosis sessions the

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hills went through in 1964 with Dr

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Benjamin Simon before that the case was

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considered to be merely a citing report

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that's how it was presented by Walter

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submitted a a report dated October 26

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1961 to the National investigations

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committee on aerial phenomena after news

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of the hills possibly having been

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abducted got out Webb was moved to

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submit an updated report dated August

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30th 1965 that contains the abduction

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account included in that report is a

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copy of the letter Betty Hill wrote to

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nycap director Donald Kehoe dated

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September 26

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1961. this is the first document with a

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complete version of the Hill's sighting

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as it was consciously remembered as for

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the abduction account Webb included a

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copy of a five-page document written by

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Betty a little over a month after the

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sighting that shows that it actually

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originated in a series of Dreams Betty

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had on consecutive nights shortly after

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the encounter the letter and document

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are included in the interrupted Journey

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but their significance as the first

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recorded account of the hills experience

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very close to the time of the event is

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not emphasized by Fuller in Betty's

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letter to Keo she Begins by asking if

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he's written any more books about

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unidentified flying objects since the

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Flying Saucer conspiracy as she and

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Barney had been unsuccessful in their

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search for any more up-to-date

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information she then goes into the

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details of their sighting according to

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her around midnight on September 20th

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she and Barney were driving through the

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national forest section of the White

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Mountains in New Hampshire she describes

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the area as desolate and uninhabited

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they noticed a bright object moving

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rapidly in the sky they stopped and got

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out to look at it with binoculars it

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then suddenly reversed and went from

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moving North to Southeast it then

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appeared to be flying in a very erratic

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pattern they continued driving and

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repeatedly stopped to look at the object

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it was spinning and seemed to be lit

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only on one side and this gave it a

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twinkling of effect as they were driving

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it approached their car and then hovered

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in front of them Betty describes it as

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pancake shaped with Windows ringing the

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front through which we could see bright

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blue white lights Barney was standing in

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the road and two red lights suddenly

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appeared moving outwards on wingtips as

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they protruded according to Betty the

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object moved closer and Barney was able

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to see figures scurrying about as if

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they were getting ready for something

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she describes one figure that seemed to

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be watching her and Bernie from Betty

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and Barney's point of view the figure

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appeared to be about the size of a

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pencil and seemed to be dressed in some

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type of shiny black uniform Barney

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suddenly panicked he'd left the car

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running and he jumped back in laughing

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and repeating that they were going to

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capture us as he drove off they heard

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several buzzing and beeping sounds which

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seemed to be hitting the trunk of the

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car they didn't see the object leave but

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they didn't see it again after they

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drove off when they were 30 miles

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further south they were again bombarded

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by these same beeping sounds Betty tells

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Keo that they reported their sighting to

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an Air Force officer who seemed to be

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very interested in the wings and red

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lights she adds that they didn't tell

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him what Barney saw inside the object as

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it seems to be too fantastic to be true

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Betty describes Barney's mind as being

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blacked out regarding what he saw when

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he panicked and that he's left very

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frightened whenever he attempts to

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recall the moment she tells Kehoe that

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they are considering the possibility of

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a competent psychiatrist who uses

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hypnotism Betty includes more details

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about the object which she describes as

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being noiseless at least as large as a

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four motor plane and notes that the

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light from the interior didn't reflect

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on the ground she adds that there didn't

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seem to be any damage to the car from

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the beeping sounds the document

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containing the abduction account is

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titled Betty Hill's own account of her

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dreams written November 1961. according

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to Betty in her account her dreams

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weren't chronological but she arranged

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them that way the story she tells picks

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up after the sighting as they're driving

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home they noticed a sharp left hand turn

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in the road and that the road then

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curved back to the right and at this

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moment they saw eight to eleven men

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Betty's word standing in front of him

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Barney slowed down and the motor died as

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he tried to restart it the men

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surrounded the car the hills sat

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speechless Betty describes being

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terrified and the men opened their doors

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and took each of them by the arm Betty

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makes note that what follows comes from

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her first stream though she doesn't

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Define where the next Dream Begins she

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describes struggling to wake up and that

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it was as if she was at the bottom of a

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deep well and must get out she managed

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to get her eyes open and was amazed she

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found herself walking on a path in the

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woods with a man on each side two in the

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front and two in the back she then saw

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Barney with a man on each side of him

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and two and back of him and she called

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out his name he didn't respond and she

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describes him as sleepwalking the mantor

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she called out was Barney's name and she

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refused to answer the man then assured

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her that she and Barney would be all

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right he explained that they needed to

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do some tests that she and Barney would

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be returned to their car and that they

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had nothing to fear Betty noticed that

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only one man spoke English in a foreign

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accent while the others were silent she

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described them as being five to five and

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a half feet tall and very human in their

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appearance she wrote that their chests

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were larger than a human's and that they

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had large noses like Jimmy durante's she

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gray paint with a black base their eyes

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and hair is being very dark possibly

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black and their lips as having a bluish

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tin Accord according to Betty they all

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wore similar slightly gray shaded navy

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blue clothing that she presumed were

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uniforms they wore pants and had jackets

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that looked like zippered sports jackets

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though she didn't see any zippers or

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buttons they wore low slip-on shoes that

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looked like boots and caps similar to

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those worn in the Air Force but not so

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broad on top they got to a clearing

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where there was a disc about as big as a

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house Betty describes it as metallic

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with no window she could see but she

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felt they were approaching it from the

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back they stepped up to a ramp and Betty

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got scared and refused to go further the

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leader assured her there was nothing to

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less she cooperated the longer it would

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take to get back to her car according to

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agreed since she had no choice and

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thought they might as well get it over

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with Betty and Barney were taken to

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separate examination rooms and she

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protested until it was explained to her

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that the they only had enough equipment

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in each room to examine a single person

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once in the room she was left alone with

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a being she called The Examiner he asked

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what their ages were and what they ate

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and Betty found herself trying to

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explain the color yellow as she was

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describing squash but she couldn't make

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the creature understand Betty told this

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same story almost word for word during

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the Hill's hypnosis sessions and this is

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examined in detail and captured the 2007

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three details that came out of the

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hypnosis sessions that are repeated

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throughout the literature on this case

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also showed up first in Betty's dreams

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one is her being given a pregnancy test

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using a long needle much like modern

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amniocentesis which was far from common

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at the time and unknown to Betty another

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is the leader pulling at Betty's teeth

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and being confused that they didn't come

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out like Barney's whereupon Betty

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explained that Barney had Dentures the

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third is Betty being shown a star map

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with a binary star system and being told

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by the leader that that's where they

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over the years and the question of how

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much Betty's dreams influenced her and

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explored extensively for example in

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captured as part of the North Carolina

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where it is stated there is an ongoing

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debate within the scientific Community

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about the validity and accuracy of such

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recovered memories followed by

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references as strange as the abduction

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experience seems to be perhaps Betty's

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dreams should be considered as being

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possibly more valid than her and

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Barney's Recollections under hypnosis in

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any case Betty's letter and account are

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an excellent starting point for students

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of the case more material is available

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in this case at nycap.org in the

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September 2011 casework index in the

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file Mart

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indianhead.dir Charles Lear is the

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author of The Flying Saucer

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